tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post6274663808139966232..comments2024-01-01T15:35:12.954-07:00Comments on Simple Utah Mormon Politics: Obama Inauguration: "Don't Believe Everything Your Parents Tell You"Frank Stahelihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-91365701700518554532009-01-28T10:25:00.000-07:002009-01-28T10:25:00.000-07:00That was a great response. Your daughter seemingl...That was a great response. Your daughter seemingly has an awesome teacher.Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016275707476655364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-7816663583092788122009-01-27T16:53:00.000-07:002009-01-27T16:53:00.000-07:00Cameron,Your comment reminded me that I had receiv...Cameron,<BR/><BR/>Your comment reminded me that I had received a very insightful response from my daughter's teacher.<BR/><BR/>I have added the response as an update to the main article.Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-32595780042022273662009-01-27T16:45:00.000-07:002009-01-27T16:45:00.000-07:00This reminds me of something that came out during ...This reminds me of something that came out during the last campaign. There was a teacher of an elementary class that was asking about who the kids were supporting for president. When one girl said McCain the teacher did her very best donkey impression.<BR/><BR/>Frank, I think your letter is great. What concerns me is the possible arrogance displayed by the teacher's response. It may not be the case here, but some teachers can get a bit of a complex when it comes to their students. <BR/><BR/>By saying, "don't believe your parents", the teacher is really saying only believe me.Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016275707476655364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-45040453120884914492009-01-25T09:43:00.000-07:002009-01-25T09:43:00.000-07:00Awesome reply!Awesome reply!Carissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988930527965599270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-58752885522923369682009-01-24T09:01:00.000-07:002009-01-24T09:01:00.000-07:00To daughter: Don't believe everything your teacher...To daughter: Don't believe everything your teachers tell you, either-- think for yourself. And don't complain about other people behind their backs, or expect someone else to fight your battles for you-- do it face to face!<BR/><BR/>Problem solved.rmwarnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10948594032787232166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-64794624766777536722009-01-23T21:32:00.000-07:002009-01-23T21:32:00.000-07:00Real education happens when commitment to find the...Real education happens when commitment to find the truth is present. In contrast, it is not a real education to teach to fabricate well-thought-out, palatable, defensible, or provable theories or concepts.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't be upset about the teacher's statement. If we were capable to teach our children ourselves we would not send them to be educated by others. Unless the 'education' in the schools and universities is viewed as a necessary step providing weapons to our kids to be able to be successful in the rat race, or unless we do not have the time to 'educate' them ourselves.<BR/><BR/>In general, a society, whose teachers are not treated with the highest respect, are often despised and chronically underpaid for educating and preparing the young, the future of the nation, is doomed to decadence, degeneration, and will end up in a deplorable condition. Unless the nation is rich in natural resources and is able to import educated, actually skillful, people from other countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-87886057440446826962009-01-23T21:31:00.000-07:002009-01-23T21:31:00.000-07:00That said, I think you handled the conversation we...That said, I think you handled the conversation well, and may have helped the teacher consider a more tactful strategy in the future. Because no matter how true her words, the course you suggested would be more effective at teaching her students how to reason for themselves.derekstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834500613514245522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-17808536961694362372009-01-23T20:12:00.000-07:002009-01-23T20:12:00.000-07:00The teacher's comment would not have bothered me i...The teacher's comment would not have bothered me in the slightest. I don't want to children to believe everything I tell them, any more than I want them to believe everything their teachers tell them, their schools tell them, their bishops tell them, etc. The advice was sound, and I don't see any reason for parents to get upset.derekstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834500613514245522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-11390747387311299032009-01-23T18:44:00.000-07:002009-01-23T18:44:00.000-07:00This also reminds me of a testimony one of the you...This also reminds me of a testimony one of the youth in our ward shared. He was in his high school english class and the teacher decided to go through the different propositions on the ballot. He had the students stand on one side of the room if they supported the issue and on the other if they opposed. They would then hold a short discussion/debate on the issue. When Prop 8 came up this young man was on the support side with one other student and the other 28 kids were on the other. He had the opportunity to then be the sole voice, as the other student just stood there silent, to explain why traditional marriage deserved support.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09640127823574636655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-2948390810530946352009-01-23T17:06:00.000-07:002009-01-23T17:06:00.000-07:00Yes, she is a bit older, and she has a strong-head...Yes, she is a bit older, and she has a strong-head and a reputation for such at school.<BR/><BR/>I asked her if it would be okay with her if I were to write the letter, before I actually wrote it.<BR/><BR/>We'll see if she lives up to her end of the bargain by delivering it to her teacher...<BR/><BR/>;-)Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-37448598650529378772009-01-23T16:59:00.000-07:002009-01-23T16:59:00.000-07:00Frank, You did well, glad you posted this. With ...Frank, You did well, glad you posted this. With current issues rising to the front this last election I had to explain to my daughter that everything she is taught at school may not be the truth. <BR/><BR/>If I were in your shoes I am afraid I may not have waited long enough to calm down, as you did, before visiting the teacher. Of course it sounds like your daughter is a little older than my 2nd grader.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09640127823574636655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-44259057621628905492009-01-23T15:22:00.000-07:002009-01-23T15:22:00.000-07:00That was a good response. If the teacher takes off...That was a good response. If the teacher takes offense at that it's not because of what you said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-17972815827753261112009-01-23T15:16:00.000-07:002009-01-23T15:16:00.000-07:00I think you showed remarkable restraint and tact. ...I think you showed remarkable restraint and tact. And it's a good response too.Mostly Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00035226546186681273noreply@blogger.com