tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post6285076526608240212..comments2024-01-01T15:35:12.954-07:00Comments on Simple Utah Mormon Politics: A Look at the Man-Made Global Warming LobbyFrank Stahelihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-50368722161207625242007-08-03T10:53:00.000-06:002007-08-03T10:53:00.000-06:00Ogden Recon, this is Redleg Shark: Thanks for tak...Ogden Recon, this is Redleg Shark: Thanks for taking my back! ;-)Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-45246703667294263172007-08-03T10:36:00.000-06:002007-08-03T10:36:00.000-06:00Man, Perser and Anon,You both kind of jumped the g...Man, Perser and Anon,<BR/>You both kind of jumped the gun. You both said that Frank needed to do his research, but you both obviously didn't before posting. Frank has a lot of posts that state that global warming is a fact. He also has a number of posts that say we need to take care of our environment and take responsibility. I think the problem is that people have to fabricate reasons in order to motivate others. IE..."Lets say global warming is caused by man and we can get our environment clean." Sorry, I don't agree with that tactic. By the way, it doesn't matter how you vote. Let's just keep to the facts no matter what side they lean to. Frank isn't alone. I agree. Let's take care of our environment, but quit with nonsense that we cause global warming.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532237715455614152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-38891830201375206712007-08-02T21:13:00.000-06:002007-08-02T21:13:00.000-06:00Elizabeth,They also laugh when they see refuse mas...Elizabeth,<BR/><BR/>They also laugh when they see refuse masquerading as science.<BR/><BR/>Ryan,<BR/><BR/>Do the research. You'll find that I'm not. But the Torquemadas of Global Warming Lobby wants you to think I am.Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-34154418165213724692007-08-02T20:28:00.000-06:002007-08-02T20:28:00.000-06:00Frank, I think you may be alone on this one.Frank, I think you may be alone on this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-13620884807941571042007-08-02T20:22:00.000-06:002007-08-02T20:22:00.000-06:00People laugh when they're nervous, Frank.People laugh when they're nervous, Frank.Anne Rettenberg LCSWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924529514196589677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-22082234827700600382007-08-02T18:24:00.000-06:002007-08-02T18:24:00.000-06:00You make a good point, that CO2 is being added to ...You make a good point, that CO2 is being added to the atmosphere like nothing we're used to (I'll say it that way, because who knows what happened in the Mesozoic era, for example). And I also agree that correlation does not equal causation.Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-22298797817227978362007-08-02T18:15:00.000-06:002007-08-02T18:15:00.000-06:00Correlation does not equal causation, but I think ...Correlation does not equal causation, but I think that the correlation between the rising temperature and the amount of carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere like nothing ever before is kind of hard to deny having an effect on the earth...I won't resort to attacking your character Frank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-91895246574573790862007-08-02T14:18:00.000-06:002007-08-02T14:18:00.000-06:00Zapper,I have! Earth in the Balance - by Al Gore ...Zapper,<BR/><BR/>I have! <BR/><BR/>Earth in the Balance - by Al Gore (do you still drive a car, by the way?)<BR/>An Inconvenient Truth - by Al Gore (which was a diatribe about a lot less than science. I laughed through the movie, too, by the way.)<BR/>Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years by Dennis T. Avery and S. Fred Singer (This one had by far the most detailed resources, many of which I studied.) <BR/><BR/>And One by Terry Anderson or somebody who admitted that as much as he would like to believe it, no one can prove that man is causing global warming.<BR/><BR/>Do you have any others that I should read? I'd be glad to put them on my bookshelf.Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-65070557239371369392007-08-02T14:11:00.000-06:002007-08-02T14:11:00.000-06:00Mr. Perser and Mr. Anonymous,I suppose you would h...Mr. Perser and Mr. Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I suppose you would have had to read the rest of my <A HREF="http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/search/label/Global%20Warming" REL="nofollow">articles about global warming</A> to know that I DO support, contrary to what you inferred, "taking a bit of responsibility for our own environment". That, however, is much different than saying that we are going to cause the earth to fry.<BR/><BR/>I haven't ever claimed economic damage as a reason to solve the global warming crisis, and as far as I can tell, no man is big enough to knock on the sun's door and tell him to tone it down a bit. Neither have I resulted to ad hominem attacks to express my point about global warming, as the both of you have.<BR/><BR/>Sincerely,<BR/><BR/>The Shi-tzu IdiotFrank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-56584541314467666462007-08-02T14:09:00.000-06:002007-08-02T14:09:00.000-06:00Good God, man. Read a book!Good God, man. Read a book!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-88818511992627785692007-08-02T14:08:00.000-06:002007-08-02T14:08:00.000-06:00Shi-tzu? You're dumber than a Shi-tzu? We had on...Shi-tzu? You're dumber than a Shi-tzu? We had one of those when I was a kid, and it was pretty dumb.<BR/><BR/>I vote Republican, but that doesn't mean I have to turn off my brain. And the commenter before me makes a valid point.<BR/><BR/>It can't be a bad idea to get ahold of this. It's not really one of those situations where, if we do nothing now, we will get a chance to say "oops, guess we WERE causing it."<BR/><BR/>And I also agree, I don't buy into this "economic damage" argument I often hear as a reason to fear global warming legislation and action. We are a very resourceful people. Somehow, I am sure we will find a way to make just as much money NOT poisoning rivers and lakes as we do now dumping and burning whatever we want.<BR/><BR/>Your argument is tired and old, sir. Time for an update. Some education about this issue wouldn't hurt either. If you are a conservative, I beg you to stop (and tell your friends!) making the conservative movement look so dim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-40858498424290353222007-08-02T14:02:00.000-06:002007-08-02T14:02:00.000-06:00It always amazes me that people can still be this ...It always amazes me that people can still be this stupid. "Some" of the nay-sayers are payed by oil companies? Do your research little boy.<BR/><BR/>Whether we are causing it or not, and whether a consensus of scientific opinion is reached or not, it is probably just a common sense good idea to get ahold of our carbon emissions and dependency on petrolium. Ever watched a dog smell car exhaust? They know it can't be good to breath, so what is your problem, if not a lack of reasoning ability greater than that of a Shi-tzu? What is it that causes individuals like yourself to be so scared, like little school girls at the site of a snake, at the simplest mention of taking a bit of responsibility for our own environment, instead of waiting for God to fix it for us, or save our asses after we did nothing. What about the better safe than sorry attitude that most people (as adults) come to accept?<BR/><BR/>You're an idiot.<BR/><BR/>And entertaining idiot, but idiot none the less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com