tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post7235806723991708273..comments2024-01-01T15:35:12.954-07:00Comments on Simple Utah Mormon Politics: GOP Debate: Iraq--What Ron Paul Really SaidFrank Stahelihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-55417123427603873952007-06-11T08:50:00.000-06:002007-06-11T08:50:00.000-06:00Those are some good insights. I sigh when I reali...Those are some good insights. I sigh when I realize that al Maliki doesn't seem to really want freedom for anyone but himself and his cronies. I cheer when I see that the Anbar Salvation Front is taking up the fight against al Qaeda. I worry that the time I spent in Iraq might have been mostly wasted, because, like you say, most Iraqis don't seem to want freedom bad enough.Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-19818035445220797382007-06-08T11:22:00.000-06:002007-06-08T11:22:00.000-06:00It's a hard concept to accept that leaving iraq is...It's a hard concept to accept that leaving iraq is the best thing for iraq.<BR/><BR/>Here's the bottom line. We can't force iraqis to want freedom. They have to want it for themselves. If the iraqi people didn't have the courage to stand up to Sadam then they don't want freedom bad enough.<BR/><BR/>People say that if we leave now there is a civil war going on and the side of democracy will lose. <BR/><BR/>America fought the revolutionary war on our own! Our ancestors wanted freedom more than anything. They risked their own lives and didn't expect France to start the war against England for us. We started the war ourselves because we wanted freedom.<BR/><BR/>That's what makes the US so unique. We overcame all odds to win a war against a powerhouse. We should spread freedom through example and not force. Once we use force we are limiting freedom.<BR/><BR/>Satan wants to force to choose the right. But God's way is to let us choose for ourself. If we don't embrace that idea in politics we would soon lose our freedom too.stubzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05768712680583844887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-60762334238010998592007-06-03T18:51:00.000-06:002007-06-03T18:51:00.000-06:00...To those of you who have wished to comment on t......To those of you who have wished to comment on this article, I apologize that somehow errantly commenting was turned off for some time...<BR/><BR/>Tyler, <BR/><BR/>I disagree; Giuliani did not have a Reagan-like moment. Reagan would not have misunderstood what Ron Paul was saying. Somehow I don't think Giuliani really misunderstood either.Frank Stahelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822334061980912687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25646979.post-34457294055585123502007-05-17T16:20:00.000-06:002007-05-17T16:20:00.000-06:00If you're saying that Paul's views are nuanced in ...If you're saying that Paul's views are nuanced in like manner to Giuliani's views on abortion then I'll agree with you.<BR/><BR/>What isn't being said is that, in the context of a debate where you only have a minute to speak, both men made a tactical error in trying to be nuanced.<BR/><BR/>Giuliani, in response to Paul, had a Reagan-like moment because he got to concisely frame what Paul was trying to say, instead of the other way around.Tyler Farrerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763919841565720127noreply@blogger.com