Yes, yes, I know that the earth is warming. And I've come to accept the reality of man-made global warming. But you'll be surprised why.I heard on the radio this morning that July 2007 was the hottest July ever in Utah, with an average temperature of about 84 degrees. Of the 5 hottest Julys ever in Utah, one was in 1960, and all the others were in the 21st century (2007, 2005, 2003, 2002 or something like that). Yeah, but...did man do it?
One of the synonyms for "to make" is "to fabricate". One of the definitions of "fabricate" is "to fake or forge." So in this way there is man-made global warming. This is the way in which I believe that man is making global warming. There are a lot of people who are fabricating "evidence" and "consensus" when it comes to global warming. Global warming is occurring, but man is making it up that man is at fault.
No one disputes the fact that the globe is warming. They (we) just dispute what is causing it.
I know, I know. Some of the scientists who dispute man-made global warming have been paid by the oil lobby. But what is not often noticed is that the scientists who "believe in" man-made global warming are paid by the global warming lobby. And they get A LOT more money. John Stossel, in his book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity puts it this way:
Twenty-five billion dollars in government funding has been spent since 1990 to research global warming. If scientists and researchers were coming out releasing reports that global warming has little to do with man, and most to do with just how the planet works, there wouldn't be as much money to study it.
That's about 1000 times more than the oil lobby has paid the man-made global warming skeptics.
Everyone has an opinion. Many people with opinions use lobbying to bring their points to the ascendancy in the debate. I hate most lobbying, because it's unethical. Never trust someone whose paycheck is determined by whether they believe or disbelieve the issue they are studying.
Most scientists are conflicted about global warming, because if they admitted that man didn't have much to do with it, they'd have to look for a new job.
It always amazes me that people can still be this stupid. "Some" of the nay-sayers are payed by oil companies? Do your research little boy.
ReplyDeleteWhether we are causing it or not, and whether a consensus of scientific opinion is reached or not, it is probably just a common sense good idea to get ahold of our carbon emissions and dependency on petrolium. Ever watched a dog smell car exhaust? They know it can't be good to breath, so what is your problem, if not a lack of reasoning ability greater than that of a Shi-tzu? What is it that causes individuals like yourself to be so scared, like little school girls at the site of a snake, at the simplest mention of taking a bit of responsibility for our own environment, instead of waiting for God to fix it for us, or save our asses after we did nothing. What about the better safe than sorry attitude that most people (as adults) come to accept?
You're an idiot.
And entertaining idiot, but idiot none the less.
Shi-tzu? You're dumber than a Shi-tzu? We had one of those when I was a kid, and it was pretty dumb.
ReplyDeleteI vote Republican, but that doesn't mean I have to turn off my brain. And the commenter before me makes a valid point.
It can't be a bad idea to get ahold of this. It's not really one of those situations where, if we do nothing now, we will get a chance to say "oops, guess we WERE causing it."
And I also agree, I don't buy into this "economic damage" argument I often hear as a reason to fear global warming legislation and action. We are a very resourceful people. Somehow, I am sure we will find a way to make just as much money NOT poisoning rivers and lakes as we do now dumping and burning whatever we want.
Your argument is tired and old, sir. Time for an update. Some education about this issue wouldn't hurt either. If you are a conservative, I beg you to stop (and tell your friends!) making the conservative movement look so dim.
Good God, man. Read a book!
ReplyDeleteMr. Perser and Mr. Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI suppose you would have had to read the rest of my articles about global warming to know that I DO support, contrary to what you inferred, "taking a bit of responsibility for our own environment". That, however, is much different than saying that we are going to cause the earth to fry.
I haven't ever claimed economic damage as a reason to solve the global warming crisis, and as far as I can tell, no man is big enough to knock on the sun's door and tell him to tone it down a bit. Neither have I resulted to ad hominem attacks to express my point about global warming, as the both of you have.
Sincerely,
The Shi-tzu Idiot
Zapper,
ReplyDeleteI have!
Earth in the Balance - by Al Gore (do you still drive a car, by the way?)
An Inconvenient Truth - by Al Gore (which was a diatribe about a lot less than science. I laughed through the movie, too, by the way.)
Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years by Dennis T. Avery and S. Fred Singer (This one had by far the most detailed resources, many of which I studied.)
And One by Terry Anderson or somebody who admitted that as much as he would like to believe it, no one can prove that man is causing global warming.
Do you have any others that I should read? I'd be glad to put them on my bookshelf.
Correlation does not equal causation, but I think that the correlation between the rising temperature and the amount of carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere like nothing ever before is kind of hard to deny having an effect on the earth...I won't resort to attacking your character Frank.
ReplyDeleteYou make a good point, that CO2 is being added to the atmosphere like nothing we're used to (I'll say it that way, because who knows what happened in the Mesozoic era, for example). And I also agree that correlation does not equal causation.
ReplyDeletePeople laugh when they're nervous, Frank.
ReplyDeleteFrank, I think you may be alone on this one.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth,
ReplyDeleteThey also laugh when they see refuse masquerading as science.
Ryan,
Do the research. You'll find that I'm not. But the Torquemadas of Global Warming Lobby wants you to think I am.
Man, Perser and Anon,
ReplyDeleteYou both kind of jumped the gun. You both said that Frank needed to do his research, but you both obviously didn't before posting. Frank has a lot of posts that state that global warming is a fact. He also has a number of posts that say we need to take care of our environment and take responsibility. I think the problem is that people have to fabricate reasons in order to motivate others. IE..."Lets say global warming is caused by man and we can get our environment clean." Sorry, I don't agree with that tactic. By the way, it doesn't matter how you vote. Let's just keep to the facts no matter what side they lean to. Frank isn't alone. I agree. Let's take care of our environment, but quit with nonsense that we cause global warming.
Ogden Recon, this is Redleg Shark: Thanks for taking my back! ;-)
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